I stood there, completely bewildered, thinking I must have misheard him.
“You are fat,” he repeated, matter-of-factly. His words hung in the air between us and all I could managed to say to defend myself was,
Last night, my friend, Ashveer, arrived at my house, bringing whiskey, beers, and an unexpected guest, an Indian man around the age of 36. I welcomed him happily, always loving to meet new people. After a few hours, we decided to climb a rusted and rickety ladder to the roof of my house where the three of us stood on top of the city, next to my gurgling water tanks, and stared at the full yellow moon. The air was crisp, the sky was deep blue-black, and Venus was out to say goodnight as well.
The moment finished. We decided to go inside, our whiskey waited patiently for us. Ashveer climbed down the small ladder, then the larger ladder, and set himself comfortably inside while the guest and I began our descent. I slowly climbed down the first of two ladders. As he watched me climbing he said, ever-so-casually,
I stood there, completely bewildered, thinking I must have misheard him.
“You are fat,” He repeated, matter-of-factly. His words hung in the air between us and all I could managed to say to defend myself was,
I didn’t say anything; the darkness hid my expression, a hybrid of utter outrage and downright shock.
“You have a tummy,” he continued, “You should work on that.”
“You should go,” I said harshly. I noticed the shift in his body language at my response.
“What?” His turn to be shocked.
“I want you to leave. I want you to go home.” I repeated, refusing to hide my anger.
“I wasn’t talking to you,” he scrambled. “I was talking about….that….thing…over there.”
His frantic discomfort gave me some semblance of joy. I was happy he felt as bad as I felt.
“You were talking to me. And now it’s time for you to go.”
He didn’t move so I motioned to the second ladder. “GO!”
He didn’t budge so I said, “fine,” coldly, and climbed down myself. He asked if I could hold the ladder for him. I did. When he was half way down I walked into my house, into my bedroom, and locked the door without acknowledging his existence. Ashveer, not even sure what had happened, asked the man to leave while I sobbed in my bedroom.
I’m not particularly proud of how I have handled being called fat in India in the last few months. I’d like to say I just brush it off and keep going about my merry way. But I don’t. Every time it destroys me. I’m in some sort of confident and self-deprecating limbo right now. It took me a long time to become a confident person. Not just about my body, but about me as a entire being. I was furiously shy in high school, fearing criticism and never really knowing what to say to new people. I hated my body. I skipped meals and would spend hours pinching at my “fat.” But I wasn’t fat in high school. Not in the least bit. I didn’t even gain any weight from the age of 18 until my 21st birthday. But I was obsessed with my weight beginning at the age of 13.
I became very confident in college. By the time I was 22 and living in Prague, I felt great about myself. I loved my body, despite being the “heaviest” I had ever been (which still wasn’t heavy or in anyway unhealthy). I became very open, very social, made friends easily, backpacked around Europe by myself for months, picking up friends city by city. I worked hard at this confidence, it took years to develop, and therefore it is something I am very proud of. I also had no idea it was something that could crack as easily as it did when I moved to India.
Having traveled to over 50 countries, including a vast section of the Middle East, a bit of Asia, most of Europe, I really wasn’t very worried about moving to India. I’ve gone without electricity. With shameless heat. With sexual harassment. Without knowing the language. Sleeping on couches, in tents, beaches. With cockroaches. With mosquitos. Bring it on. But I really never thought about having to deal with being fat. Because when I arrived in India, I recognized I had gained some weight in the last 3-5 years, but I didn’t think I qualified as fat.
India, age 25 (this morning, Feb 2016)
Oh, but how wrong I was…
People in India love to tell me that I am fat. No, not people. Men. Older men. No woman in India has ever criticized the way I look (to my face, at least).
- There was the stranger (man, around age 50, with his daughter and wife) in the clothing store who, when I was holding up a kurthi (Indian dress), took it upon himself to tell me it was too small for me. I needed a larger size. (The dress actually was too big)
- My landlord joked about how cute it would be to have seen me in high school, “cute little fat Gwen.”
- An officer in the Haryana Government that I have talked to maybe once or twice took the liberty of walking into my office and commenting that I look like I have gotten fatter. He then demanded to know how much I weigh, insisting until I lied that I don’t own a scale.
- After telling someone about my new gym, he told me, “you look fit,” I was happy about finally receiving a compliment about my body, so I told my friend, accidentally rewording it it “skinny or slim” (I can’t even remember now), who then said, “He’s lying.” This has become an on-going fight for months. He woke me up at 4 in the morning to apologize profusely and to tell me he didn’t mean it “like that” because “skinny in India means really, really skinny,” and after he told me how good I look, I dropped it.
- Recently, my landlord’s sister-in-law saw me and told me I look like I have lost weight. Again, excited for a compliment, I told Rohit who then said, “you look thinner in kurthis than in jeans.” (Why can I just have the compliment?)
- A friend of a friend came to my house and looked at a picture of me from the summer and didn’t realize it was me. In Hindi I heard him announce, “she looks fat there.”
Body Image Issues
These seem small when I write them, trivial. I know it probably sounds like I am overreacting. And I think deep down, I know that. I know that the way I look is a small part of who I actually am as a person. I have a lot to offer. But I want to be completely honest and India has still been incredibly problematic for my mental health. As I said before, my confidence feels cracked. And the battle for my brain begins:
Sometimes I revert to my 15-year-old self. I can’t watch movies or TV without comparing my body to literally every actress. I refuse to wear most of my clothes because I worry I look fat in them. I wonder if I always looked fat in them or if I actually am just fatter now. I feel guilty after I eat just about anything. I cry. A lot. I beat myself up for hours when I skip the gym. I tell myself that this isn’t cultural and I’m not allowed to get upset about these comments because I should work harder, eat less, go to the gym everyday for an hour and a half instead of just two or three times a week. Even writing this blog post I have decided is me giving an excuse to the reality: I’m fat. Period.
Sometimes, then, I think that I’m being stupid. I look great. No one has a perfect body and if I lose 2 or 5 or 10 or 15 pounds, this type of obsession with body image means you will never be happy. So you are fat in India? You aren’t fat in the US. No one before India has EVER told you that you are fat (to your face). Plus, “fat” doesn’t even matter. You are healthy. You ran a half marathon. You climbed a mountain to 3200 meters a few months ago. You exercise. You shouldn’t start working out more just because some ugly old man told you to lose an extra 5 pounds. Feminists don’t roll over and give in to unnatural standards of beauty just because a few men think they should.
These “times” fluctuate from day to day or as frequently as from minute to minute. Writing this blog post has been an emotional nightmare.
“Fat” in India
I’ve had a lot of explanations as to what these comments mean in the Indian context. My Indian friends have described this mostly as a difference in how Indians and Americans perceive personal space. One text I received about the most recent incident said, “The idea of personal space is non-existent in India. People don’t realize what can be commented on and what is a no comment zone. So when they say such things to you they are being naive, not condescending…..For them it is a casual talk/remark.” Another friend said something similar. “These things are not malicious. People are just commenting. Today you look tall, today you look short. You look fatter, you look thinner. Your skin looks lighter, your skin looks darker. There is not much behind these comments. They are just comments.”
And I understand this. And I know that none of these comments have been nearly as cruel as I am interpreting them. I know calling someone “fat” in India is not the same as in the US. But it doesn’t change years of baggage I am carrying with me. It doesn’t change that I am going to read into it because I spent 24 years believing that commenting on someone’s appearance negatively is one of the rudest things you can do. It doesn’t change that no one in India has ever told me they think I am intelligent, with the exception of one person. I don’t need people to tell me these things to know them. But I sometimes feel like the reason it is just men making these comments is because that’s all I they think that I am good for, my looks. And I need to “work on my tummy” in order to be the best I can be for these men. Because learning to play the guitar or learning to speak Hindi in the time I’m not going to the gym isn’t as important as having a flat stomach.
Sometimes, when I tell people these incidents, they tell me stories about their fat friends getting the same type of treatment in India. And then I feel even worse, because suddenly they are comparing me with their fat friends. It’s like a conformation that I actually am fat.
One of my colleagues said people in India have unrealistic expectations and that there is only one perfect body type here. She says they don’t realize people can be of different shapes and sizes even though they are fine, they aren’t fat, they are still healthy. But 15-year-old body-conscious Gwen blocked any logic tangible in this argument and all I could think was, “but I want the perfect body.”
This post is not intended to suggest every Indian feels this way. This is a small sample based solely on my experience living in India. It’s not an invitation for anyone to tell me to “get over” my own body-image problems. I already know I need to do this. Like I said, I believed that I had. It’s also not a public way to fish for compliments. I have posted pictures of myself only to, hopefully, give perspective as to what body type can be considered “less than perfect” to some people here in India. I tried to post honest pictures, not pictures where I look fatter or thinner than normal.
I simply want to draw attention to a struggle that I have that I sincerely believe I would not be having in the US. I sincerely don’t think anyone in the US would give a second thought to my size. I want to draw attention to the fact that societies have very different perceptions as to what is private, what is off-limits, what is acceptable, and how that affects people who don’t necessarily have the same cultural rules and understandings.
So after the night ended and I took a shower, I stared at my naked body for awhile and felt no shame. “Should I be ashamed of looking like this?” The rational, confident person that I have worked for be since high school screamed, “No!” Of course not. And patted myself on the back and gave a big middle finger to Ashveer’s guest. You look great. But, once again, those thoughts of skipping lunch in the 8th grade and researching fad diets slithered out of the dark corners of my memory and wrapped about my logic to cut off its life before any more positive thoughts could be created.
And now I’m off to visit the gym and to ask my trainer for diet plans.
I LOVE that you kicked the guy out. Wish I’d done that a few times in my life. On the other hand, when you get to be a certain age, you develop a sort of what-the-hell attitude, like who cares what the guy thinks (but I’m still glad you did it.!)
I’ve had a lot of interesting private messages about this, and while I know the guy was honestly confused as to how upset I was at the comment, I still don’t regret reacting this way. Still trying to get my “what-the-hell” attitude back!
These kinds of comments are a type of harassment; it is hard not to rationalize it and blame yourself–like, if I were wearing a long skirt instead of jeans I wouldn’t get bothered, if I looked more appealing people would be nicer, if I looked less appealing I wouldn’t get harassed, etc. The things all these kinds of comments have in common is that they have little to do with you and your choices, and everything to do with the commenter’s rudeness, ignorance and cruelty. It is hard not to internalize it, and I am so sorry it happens to you, and tons of other women. It’s so difficult to constantly deal with, and I’m glad you shared your story.
You are beautiful just the way you are. You were right to kick him out if you felt insulted. Maybe he learned something about how to treat people.
Im from Toronto and work in an unusually diverse environment. I’m a female technical professional and I’m essentially second in command of an industrial facility. Two days ago, one of our Indian employees asked me for technical advice, which I gave, then promptly told me I carried weight. Thinking I’d misunderstood him, I asked him to explain, which he clarified by saying I’ve gotten fat and must be eating too much. I asked him to leave my office. He took it to mean I was busy and left smiling. I told his supervisor about it and they had words and apparently he’s very sorry a personal apology is forthcoming. While I honestly believe he didn’t mean to offend me (frankly, I think I scare him – he’s not used to women with authority), offend me he did.
I’m Canadian to a fault and have a ton of patience for cultural differences. I even initiated a weekly “bring in your favourite ethnic dish” day at work to celebrate our diversity. I work with dozens of Indians, and by and large they’re awesome. As an example, a couple of years ago we had an ice storm which knocked out power to large swaths of the city (including my place) for days and one of them offered me and my family his house while he was on vacation. Others have routinely offered me free plumbing and electrical work in my house, just to be nice. Some of these guys are nice to a fault.
At the same time, the guy who called me fat has lived in this country for at least 10 years, and I have had other Indian (male) coworkers phone me up just to ask if I’m pregnant yet (WTF?). You’d think that they’d have gotten the memo by now that this is not acceptable, particularly in the workplace.
The simple fact is that some people are just assholes. They don’t get it. They have no respect for women and no understanding of boundaries. Unfortunately, knowing this doesn’t help. I, like you, am having a hard time with being openly called fat. It doesn’t seem to matter to me that I commanded a 6 figure salary by the age of 30, that my husband loves me unconditionally and thinks I’m beautiful, or that I have amazing friends and family who don’t give a rats ass how fat I am. I still focused on the statements of some stupid douchebag who otherwise has no bearing on my life. My boss has commented that I’ve had a dark cloud around me the past couple of days and he’s right. It’s hurt me to the core – but that’s not because of the number on my scale. Its because we continue to validate ourselves on how we look.
Let’s validate ourselves on how we act.
I’m SO proud of you for kicking that ass hole out of your house. It takes guts to stand up for yourself – particularly on someone else’s turf. SERIOUS guts. It doesn’t matter if you cried later. My sister says crying is just leaking frustration through your eyes. You continually stand up for yourself. You travel the world and learn about it first hand. These are the stories you will tell your grandchildren. Nobody cares how fat Marie Curie or Eleanor Rosevelt were, they were awesome based on what they did, not what they ate.
From your pictures I see that you are a beautiful woman. But honestly, the reason I would love to have you over for dinner one day would be to hear some of the amazing stories you must have from living a truly adventurous life. You. Are. Awesome.
What a wonderfully uplifting comment! Reading this made me smile so much.
Thank you for sharing your story in Toronto. My experience in India has been almost 100% positive, with a few mishaps such as this one. It seems you can relate. The man who offended me reached out and apologized, which I appreciate a lot, though I still plan to keep some distance there. As a whole, Indians have been nothing but more than kind to me. Even this man seemed remorseful for having offended me so much. I recognize this was never his intention. Though I still wonder what the utility in telling someone they should “work on their weight” or “eat less” plays? After 10 years in Canada, I’m surprised at your colleague’s comment. Of course, I imagine if I lived in India for ten years, there would still be cultural subtleties I might not understand and could accidentally offend someone. I’m glad he is going to (has) apologize(d) and hopefully he will realize this is a serious offense in Canada and won’t do it again.
Since writing this post, I have been feeling very good about myself: both as a person and physically. You are absolutely correct that we (both men and women) must validate ourselves for our actions and learnings. Focusing on our successes and what we bring to society or what we learn from society are far more rememberable than if we were 5pounds heavier or lighter when we did it. And as women, we should set an example that our looks are only a small part of who we are as people, and not what she be focused on.
If I am ever in Toronto, I will let you know. I’d love to exchange travel/cultural experience stories with you. Likewise, if you visit India, please reach out! 🙂